tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post1773550457806619082..comments2023-10-16T07:13:12.123-05:00Comments on A plain blog about politics: Newt on TodayJonathan Bernsteinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15931039630306253241noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-18143921709569976872010-04-07T16:01:17.157-05:002010-04-07T16:01:17.157-05:00Andrew,
Just wrote another post on this, so see t...Andrew,<br /><br />Just wrote another post on this, so see that (Newt on CNN).<br /><br />I think you're empirically wrong about this; NBC won't book someone to represent the GOP who the GOP don't want representing them. <br /><br />Moreover, I don't think it's correct at all to equate the networks allowing the parties to choose their own spokespeople to their becoming "propaganda outlets." The networks should allow, IMO, the party leaders to get their talking points out -- but they should also challenge them, of course. It's a mistake for NBC to allow Newt to repeat the GOP talking point about 16K new IRS agents without pointing out that it's thoroughly debunked nonsense.<br /><br />But what would really be bad for democracy is for the press to suppress the views of the out-party, or have some sort of reasonableness test for those views.Jonathan Bernsteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15931039630306253241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-3897328781941774582010-04-06T16:28:34.253-05:002010-04-06T16:28:34.253-05:00I don't think it's NBC's job to choose...<i>I don't think it's NBC's job to choose who represents the GOP.</i><br /><br />It absolutely is NBC's job to choose who represents the GOP point-of view <i>on NBC shows</i>. <br /><br />To claim otherwise means that network political shows are nothing more than propaganda outlets for the two main parties and their hand-selected talking heads. <br /><br />Maybe that is in fact the case, but normatively speaking, it's a horrible state of affairs for our democracy.<br /><br />(By the way, there are no Democratic leaders hounding network execs, pleading with them not to put Jim Wright and Tom Foley on the air. They're not on simply because NBC doesn't want them on, because they don't bring ratings like a Gingrich or a Giuliani. That's the only reason, and it has nothing to do with whether they were "chosen" to be a party representative.)Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15913245096162048743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-53728326680287430872010-04-06T14:50:27.029-05:002010-04-06T14:50:27.029-05:00Andrew,
I strongly disagree with you: I don't...Andrew,<br /><br />I strongly disagree with you: I don't think it's NBC's job to choose who represents the GOP. I don't think Democrats would have thought it a good idea if, say, NBC had decided that Obama shouldn't be treated as a party leader in 2005-2007 because of his past drug use. <br /><br />As far as who chooses Newt to show up on TV all the time...I strongly expect that if GOP leaders didn't want Newt to be representing them on TV, they would urge the networks to ignore him, and the networks would do so. But in fact Republicans treat Newt as if he was a distinguished party leader (he's always showing up on panels at conservative think tanks, or as a guest on Fox News and conservative talk radio), so it's reasonable of NBC to treat him like that. No, the voters didn't choose Newt -- but other Republican elites did.Jonathan Bernsteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15931039630306253241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-7172040273542381002010-04-06T14:45:27.109-05:002010-04-06T14:45:27.109-05:00Great post as usual!
I am a dissertating cultura...Great post as usual! <br /><br />I am a dissertating cultural anthropologist who writes about tea parties, ballot initiatives and public employee union, and has become obsessed with US political writing and analysis. (Yours is my favorite.) <br /><br />Thanks for opening up a bunch of new disciplinary vistas for me. Please continue about your blogging!lex dexterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02984338384931444324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-30691941391659777382010-04-06T14:36:56.604-05:002010-04-06T14:36:56.604-05:00On Bill Clinton...well, yes, although even there c...On Bill Clinton...well, yes, although even there compare the treatment the parties give Clinton vs. Reagan -- yes, the Dems certainly have tolerated Clinton's fooling around, but the GOP pretty much has purged their memories of Iran/Contra. And not just the illegal parts; trading arms to the Iranians wasn't exactly worthy of Rushmore. <br /><br />As far as Spitzer, I guess we'll have to see, but so far I think the Dems certainly have tolerated him a lot less than the GOP tolerates Ensign/Vitter.Jonathan Bernsteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15931039630306253241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-78615878072787657432010-04-06T14:29:26.971-05:002010-04-06T14:29:26.971-05:00The GOP "chose" Gingrich to represent th...The GOP "chose" Gingrich to represent their point-of-view? How? Their voters haven't elected him. He's not in a position of leadership within the party.<br /><br />In reality, the GOP didn't choose Gingrich. <i>NBC</i> chose him - repeatedly - to represent the GOP point-of-view, even though Gingrich is (as you admit) rightly regarded as a "disgraced clown."<br /><br />it seems to me that, even if the GOP <i>did</i> "choose" Gingrich to be its representative on NBC, it is still NBC's responsibility to reject all pundits who are actually "disgraced clowns" and instead find a pundit who can represent the GOP point-of-view with intelligence and credibility.<br /><br /><i>If the Republicans didn't want Newt Gingrich (or Rudy Giuliani, or John McCain, two other Benen targets) on TV representing them, it wouldn't happen. </i><br /><br />So the GOP's wish is NBC's command, huh? You don't view this as a problem, apparently! I do. It's NBC's problem, as much as it is the GOP's.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15913245096162048743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-57524349553883141272010-04-06T14:25:30.113-05:002010-04-06T14:25:30.113-05:00Eliot Spitzer has or had a column on slate.com. W...Eliot Spitzer has or had a column on slate.com. While his profile may not be as high he seems to be heading in the same direction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-57846707305908596392010-04-06T14:23:42.525-05:002010-04-06T14:23:42.525-05:00i like your general point, and it's a nice lon...i like your general point, and it's a nice long list. <br /> but Dems have Bill Clinton, an obvious adulterer before and during and ... after? his Presidency.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com