tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post5680111488002361712..comments2023-10-16T07:13:12.123-05:00Comments on A plain blog about politics: Pelosi Had an Easy Job This TimeJonathan Bernsteinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15931039630306253241noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-70371875332984035672013-10-17T17:32:16.148-05:002013-10-17T17:32:16.148-05:00What I would really like to know, is how many of t...What I would really like to know, is how many of these 87 yes votes were there before this 16 day shutdown began? Peter King kept on saying there were 25 to 30 who never showed up and I just assumed he couldn't count, but maybe there were there all long but were too afraid, or just wanted to see how this all played out. Because surely they could've pressured Boehner to pass the clean CR by voting against him some rules committee votes or against some of the earlier CR's with defund Obamacare attached. Also how many of the 144 no votes are the truly crazy caucas, or are ones who don't want any separation from them (vote no, hope yes crowd). <br /><br />Also of interest is if these 87 yes votes start exerting more influence in the party conference, by threatening to vote with Democrats to defeat legislation that is too far right and start reigning in the far right caucus. Because I would think that Boehner would want to do that, especially seeing the GOP's poll numbers after this debacle. I guess we shall see.Yaramah Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11545126290793710143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-14375805300082562552013-10-17T16:01:14.553-05:002013-10-17T16:01:14.553-05:00I suspect there's something screwy about Gohme...I suspect there's something screwy about Gohmert and DW-NOM, sort of like how the ratings systems IIRC had difficulty handling Russ Feingold. <br /><br />And, yes, not only his voting record, but his high-profile rhetoric.Jonathan Bernsteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15931039630306253241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-25294511392596982912013-10-17T14:32:29.948-05:002013-10-17T14:32:29.948-05:00It wasn't a reference to his conservative cred...It wasn't a reference to his conservative cred as much as his vocal support of the GOP strategy. Gohmert was perhaps rivaled only by Ted Cruz in his vehemence in this last battle. Jamie Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08579007138576584958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-25341681133776626362013-10-17T10:55:30.483-05:002013-10-17T10:55:30.483-05:00Anyway, it is silly to think that only the 87 who ...Anyway, it is silly to think that only the 87 who voted Yes were pro-Boehner. There were plenty of the 144 "No's" who were perfectly satisfied that the measure passed, as long as it was not with their votes. In fact, Boehner himself may be glad that some of them voted No, if it saved them from having a Tea Party primary challenger.David Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09260587086663631888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-15108419914664556162013-10-17T10:03:33.062-05:002013-10-17T10:03:33.062-05:00Blocking legislation is far easier than passing le...Blocking legislation is far easier than passing legislation. The Republicans, by conditioning the end of the shut down and avoiding default on passing legislation (i.e., defunding ACA, spending cuts, etc.), made Pelosi's job relatively easy. It's a distinction that Johnathan Cohn gets in his post on this topic. Raywardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-521592587757118452013-10-17T09:51:54.094-05:002013-10-17T09:51:54.094-05:00Nice post. One quibble: a couple times you have us...Nice post. One quibble: a couple times you have used Gohmert as your rightwinger example, but he was only the 116th most conservative Member in the 112th Cong using DW-NOM, and he's about the same in the 113th using Jackman's Ideal points. If you want to use a well-known Texan, Hensarling is much more (statistically) consistently conservative.<br /><br />mMatt Glassmannoreply@blogger.com