tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post5719858390769665616..comments2023-10-16T07:13:12.123-05:00Comments on A plain blog about politics: Catch of the DayJonathan Bernsteinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15931039630306253241noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-51801420878414340372013-01-31T12:06:24.728-06:002013-01-31T12:06:24.728-06:00That sounds about right.That sounds about right.CSHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-76121991864826738102013-01-31T07:47:17.529-06:002013-01-31T07:47:17.529-06:003 reasons, I suspect all of which contribute at le...3 reasons, I suspect all of which contribute at least in part.<br /><br />1. The Obama WH is much better run than the Clinton WH, especially in the first two years.<br /><br />2. Permanent Washington, including especially the neutral press, really didn't like Clinton; they're fine with Obama. The reasons for rejecting Clinton are murky at best, but no question that it happened.<br /><br />3. The further development of the GOP-aligned press, especially Fox News, has made everyone within the GOP information loop rather lazy and very inward-looking. Jonathan Bernsteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15931039630306253241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-34220406339036479572013-01-31T05:49:12.594-06:002013-01-31T05:49:12.594-06:00imo, a better explanation for the Clinton obsessio...imo, a better explanation for the Clinton obsession is a favorite back here in a different context: norms. In particular, the violation of Lincoln-bedroom-type norms. The Clinton about whom Christopher Hitchens wrote prolificly, and really pejoratively. I may be missing something, and Hitch is regrettably not here to document, but I do believe that nothing about Obama offends those sensibilities anywhere near the way Bubba did.<br /><br />Which points to an interesting thing about violation of norms: your offense is entirely a function of your point-of-view. If you're a big-time Clinton fan, the guest list for the Lincoln bedroom, the astroturf in the back of the El Camino, heck Hughie Rodham's parachute pants - none of that stuff bothers you. If you hate Clinton, you couldn't get enough of Hitch's outrage.<br /><br />Bringing it back to the present: perhaps this helps explain how a large demographic is not bothered at all by Mitch McConnell breaking with tradition to press Republican advantage in the contemporary Senate.CSHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-84096704120597221372013-01-31T03:25:01.221-06:002013-01-31T03:25:01.221-06:00Yes, that's all true, PF, and if I may cite my...Yes, that's all true, PF, and if I may cite myself from the subthread above, perhaps it helps answer the question I posed there: Why so little in the way of trumped-up Obama scandals, to this point? Why didn't the ones that Fox et. al. have tried to hype "have legs" like, say, Whitewater, even though the GOP congressional caucus is arguably more radical today, and at least as anti-Obama as their predecessors were anti-Clinton? (I certainly would have pegged Darryl Issa for more of a scandal-monger than Jim Leach, for instance, the GOP banking chair who held absurdly pointless hearings on the Clinton stuff.) Perhaps our friends in hard news actually learned lessons from the Clinton years, and in various ways have been signaling to the GOP crazies that they're not buying it, that the scandal approach is not going to work as well as it used to and that they're not going to get blanket coverage in the mainstream press unless they've really got the goods. Let's hope.Jeffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-65726729110654698852013-01-30T20:15:55.675-06:002013-01-30T20:15:55.675-06:00Yes, you're right. It's probably in many c...Yes, you're right. It's probably in many cases very hard to tell at the beginning of any story. But at some point, if the hard-news reporter is assessing events as he/she goes along learning more about the content of the issue/event and reporting further on its developments, he can make some limited judgments about what seems more or less likely to be trumped up. This is something we consistently expect in any good academic or long-form reporter as they become an expert in a matter or learn what respected experts to consult. Now of course, there will be matters that are irreducibly controversial and subjective, which should be respected and emphasized, but there is much that is factual which many reporters refuse to share with their readers for no good reason (which would pertain to their chief interest in informing their readers).<br /><br />Anyway, we don't need to rehash "view from nowhere" CJR-style debates here. I was simply trying to suggest that JB's initial point in this post may be underemphasizing how much politicians controlling the agenda is also due to a compliant news media that resists applying not just their partisan faculties of mind (understandable!) but also their basic faculties of judgment (perverse and disingenuous).PFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00263515090451316188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-72499189694513141092013-01-30T19:29:22.965-06:002013-01-30T19:29:22.965-06:00PF, certainly commentators can declare that someth...PF, certainly commentators can declare that something is "phony" and a "non-issue," but hard-news reporters and assignment editors can't do that nearly so easily. They would see it as inserting their own political judgment into the story, and would be nagged by a distant folk memory that Watergate, too, the paradigmatic political scandal, started out small and was widely dismissed (at first) as a non-issue. So if a party leader or congressional committee chairman is loudly insisting that something is a big deal, there's a lot of pressure to report that "straight" even if you suspect it may all be bogus.Jeffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-10006510402401682852013-01-30T19:14:09.639-06:002013-01-30T19:14:09.639-06:00But wouldn't the responsible, not actually tha...But wouldn't the responsible, not actually that difficult style of reporting this then be: "a significant/powerful group of politicians want to make phony-issue/event the center of attention. This is worth our coverage because a) these people's actions are always notable, and b) it's perplexing/startling that their desired center of attention is actually (w/r/t to reality, as judged by non-partisans) a non-issue." Point being, this is just as much the fault of news media outlets as it is a group of politicians' fault.<br /><br />It's perfectly possible to cover the obsessions of an important group without tacitly ratifying that group's judgments. In fact, the story becomes all the more interesting and newsworthy, in some respects, the more there's an interesting divergence between those aspects.PFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00263515090451316188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-31066895321814739922013-01-30T18:26:10.943-06:002013-01-30T18:26:10.943-06:00True, but they've had two years already -- wha...True, but they've had two years already -- what's the hold-up?Jeffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-77011798668722793252013-01-30T18:16:29.952-06:002013-01-30T18:16:29.952-06:00@Jeff There's still plenty of time for a House...@Jeff There's still plenty of time for a House Hearing on an Obama "scandal".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-10166124948238213042013-01-30T16:53:48.784-06:002013-01-30T16:53:48.784-06:00Had not heard the Dole story before, so thanks for...Had not heard the Dole story before, so thanks for repeating it. As you say in your earlier post, these young kids nowadays probably don't remember what it was like in the Clinton years -- another trumped-up scandal every month, it seemed like. ("The Clinton Scandalabra," as John McGlaughlin called it.) I think one interesting question would be why there's been less of that with Obama. Oh, there's plenty of Obama Derangement Syndrome, there are attempts to trump things up ("czars," Solyndra, Fast&Furious, etc.), and people on the right greeted Obama's re-election with lamentations about how it was the end of America, the Founding Vision was dust, etc, which I don't recall them doing when Clinton was re-elected. But even the fake scandals of today are more about government actions or administration policies. Where are the House committee hearings on the Obamas' personal bank accounts, property deals, Christmas-card lists and so forth? Where are the dark insinuations that Obama has his political enemies offed? Something's changed. Is it because they're afraid of personally attacking a black guy, maybe?Jeffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-27851570281943239642013-01-30T16:18:54.940-06:002013-01-30T16:18:54.940-06:00I know this is off-topic, but it's crazy.
In ...I know this is off-topic, but it's crazy.<br /><br />In Dade County, AL, a survivalist has murdered a school bus driver and taken a six year old child hostage in a bunker that he built on his own property.<br /><br />The Sheriff's office describes the man as "stand-offish." Really?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com