tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post7214215235582098765..comments2023-10-16T07:13:12.123-05:00Comments on A plain blog about politics: In Defense of Insane 2016 StoriesJonathan Bernsteinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15931039630306253241noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-84281825620041303622012-04-27T10:36:16.657-05:002012-04-27T10:36:16.657-05:00All good points, JB. BUT.....
horse-race type sto...All good points, JB. BUT.....<br /><br />horse-race type stories really do nobody any good this far out. So, stories on who's setting up PACs to bribe, I mean donate to, Iowa politicians are useful. Stories speculating on how so-and-so's resume is likely to resonate with older voters in 2016 are not.Matt Jarvisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-59514737675959305782012-04-26T19:20:16.181-05:002012-04-26T19:20:16.181-05:00Is it possible that the campaign hasn't starte...Is it possible that the campaign hasn't started for a frontrunner, like HRC, but is very much ongoing for the marginal characters? If its true that Romney won the 2012 Republican nomination after the SC primary, did anything change for him between, say, McCain winning the 2008 Republican nomination and the 2012 SC primary? Or was he (more or less) the same broadly despised, waiting-for-something-better frontrunner the entire time? <br /><br />Similarly, has anything about HRC's 2016 bid changed in her last, say, 6 months at state?<br /><br />By contrast, I could easily believe that the nomination of Huntsman as Obama's ambassador to China, in May 2009, pretty much ended Huntsman's 2012 Presidential bid - right then and there.CSHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-69781511943432885692012-04-26T17:57:40.780-05:002012-04-26T17:57:40.780-05:00I am always down for making fun of Politico, but J...I am always down for making fun of Politico, but JB is right that if you involved in Democratic politics either as a committed activist or as someone who works professionally in the world of left leaning American politics it is time to start thinking about 2016. Since Politico caters both to political junkies and to people who work in DC think tanks or state legislatures or as campaign professionals its totally fair game to write about it this early. It's normal to do stuff like this in other fields like sports (stories about high school protegees and how they will change the NFL years before they can go pro) or in technology (every other article in Wired is about some new technology that will change everything in 5 years). My biggest problem is that I see Empire State Democrats as a bunch of incompetent bunglers who can't win the Mayor's office or even hold on to their Congressional seats and I think that angle should be in the story. Oh and the last Democrat to win the Presidency from the Northeast? JFK.longwalkdownlyndalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13173899547449318257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-51672867224171825062012-04-26T12:24:37.244-05:002012-04-26T12:24:37.244-05:00Make that September 12. (Must have been a Freudian...Make that September 12. (Must have been a Freudian slip.)Scott Monjenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-2299407169829218222012-04-26T12:24:15.859-05:002012-04-26T12:24:15.859-05:00Yes, but when were their party leaders chosen?Yes, but when were their party leaders chosen?Jonathan Bernsteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15931039630306253241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-73493765198353811772012-04-26T12:22:11.315-05:002012-04-26T12:22:11.315-05:00"The Democratic invisible primary for 2016 is..."The Democratic invisible primary for 2016 is only a few months away -- or, perhaps, has already started."<br /><br />Now, the Dutch, on the other hand, just called an early election, and the whole thing will be done and decided on September 11.Scott Monjenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-25885837609349877282012-04-26T11:03:59.260-05:002012-04-26T11:03:59.260-05:00No one's saying that it doesn't matter who...No one's saying that it doesn't matter who runs in 2016, or that those decisions aren't being made now. People make fun of Haberman's story and others like it because they don't actually tell the reader anything. I went into that story knowing that there were rumors about Cuomo and Clinton running, and came out knowing the same thing. <br /><br />Politico is "getting heat" because they treat a former deputy mayor to going on the record with some pure speculation as worthy of front-page treatment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-62921981607318177722012-04-26T10:56:35.803-05:002012-04-26T10:56:35.803-05:00The one who has used the time since 2008 to best p...The one who has used the time since 2008 to best position for 2016 is Hillary Clinton. I will not forgive her for the racist subtext of so much of her campaign's increasing desperation, but her tenure at State has been well-played broadly put. I look at her performance and it makes her look like she could handle the Presidency, whatever policy aside.<br /><br />Take Biden as a counter-example. Doesn't come off as Presidential.Billhttp://freeandeasywandering.com/noreply@blogger.com