tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post1305570877032342190..comments2023-10-16T07:13:12.123-05:00Comments on A plain blog about politics: Mixed Feelings on the Senate DealJonathan Bernsteinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15931039630306253241noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-25320803545707636192013-07-17T12:34:05.070-05:002013-07-17T12:34:05.070-05:00I'm pretty sure the "de facto" rule ...I'm pretty sure the "de facto" rule will hold at least until we get a new Senate. So I guess the question is whether a formalized rule would be more likely to hold into a new Senate than the de facto rule.<br /><br />As another commentator suggested, you might think the lesson of the "de facto" rule for judicial nominations is that yes, "de facto" rules are less likely to hold over. On the other hand, now that we have two precedents for the successful employment of the nuclear threat to get a "de facto" rule, maybe we will see it happen in every Senate.<br /><br />I guess we shall see.BrianTHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-37600711310627291142013-07-16T21:41:49.686-05:002013-07-16T21:41:49.686-05:00Nobody was even considering modifying the 60 vote ...Nobody was even considering modifying the 60 vote rule for legislation. (Except insofar as McConnell threatened he would do so as soon as he got a majority *if* the Democrats unilaterally changed the filibuster rules--even if only on executive appointments--now.) That is going to be totally irrelevant before 2017 anyway (except in the very unlikely event the Democrats win the House in 2014). The Democrats can't get any legislation the Republicans don't like through the House. The Republicans, even if they win a majority in the Senate, can't get anything past Obama's veto. So the filibuster is really only about appointments for the next three and a half years.David Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09260587086663631888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-15474458259747673672013-07-16T17:10:13.231-05:002013-07-16T17:10:13.231-05:00"...It's possible that we'll now have..."...It's possible that we'll now have that de facto..."<br /><br />The "no filibustering judicial nominees" only applied to the 109th Congress (how convenient). Honeyboy Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11268312972803113627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-45344084186785031862013-07-16T16:34:54.245-05:002013-07-16T16:34:54.245-05:00This reasoning seems backwards: if filibuster disc...This reasoning seems backwards: if filibuster discussions are now much more openly recognizing the different justifications for each type of filibuster, then shouldn't Democrats have gone ahead with reforming the executive nomination rules, with less to fear about that implying anything about judicial and legislative situations?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-15107051233832836382013-07-16T16:29:35.451-05:002013-07-16T16:29:35.451-05:00What makes you think the Democrats would be unifie...What makes you think the Democrats would be unified against a Wall Street lobbyist? There are a pretty solid number of Democrats who are comfortable with big business. I'd expect, say, Elizabeth Warren to pull a Rand-Paul-Drones-Style talking filibuster, but I'd be surprised if they went nullification, particularly since they want the CFPB. Republicans probably don't want the NLRB at all.<br /><br />That presumes that one with an antithetical leader is better than without any leader, however. No way I can really tell which would be more effective. To that end, might a future Republican just not nominate anyone (to CFPB, NLRB, etc), or is there a check on that?theBitterFignoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-48173308368247977152013-07-16T16:06:36.709-05:002013-07-16T16:06:36.709-05:00Will the Democrats filibuster--or switch to the GO...Will the Democrats filibuster--or switch to the GOP position of having a board run the CFPB--when the Republicans take over and appoint a Wall Street lobbyist to run it?Scott Monjenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-7770546615017688782013-07-16T15:46:37.395-05:002013-07-16T15:46:37.395-05:00Despite Harry Reid's unsteady history on the s...Despite Harry Reid's unsteady history on the subject, it would be in the best interest of the Senate to reform the filibuster. This 60 vote rule needs to end if real legislation is going to be passed. However it is comforting to see that the filibuster lives to see another day and Washington was able to compromise on something. Mark Pomerleauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11111012331339498256noreply@blogger.com