tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post3043289695189984453..comments2023-10-16T07:13:12.123-05:00Comments on A plain blog about politics: Friday Baseball PostJonathan Bernsteinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15931039630306253241noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-75236795175239256362010-12-06T14:26:33.079-06:002010-12-06T14:26:33.079-06:00Jonathan I think McGwire should be counted separat...Jonathan I think McGwire should be counted separately. He'd have cruised in without the whole "I'm not here to talk about the past" (testimonygate?) and subsequent confirmation of everybody's suspicion.<br /><br />Sean Smith has Lou Whitaker, Barry Larkin, Bobby Grich, Edgar Martinez and Alan Trammell heading up the list (and basically all within method error). I think that's reasonable, but I can totally see choosing Raines over any of them (since it's basically an issue of how to weight better defensive players versus high peak offensive players)<br /><br />Whitaker and Grich are the obvious HOF mistakes. Martinez is the hard case.Ron Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14332650867258934223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-79032801319339636572010-12-06T13:38:31.237-06:002010-12-06T13:38:31.237-06:00Ron,
No need to apologize! Your comments are ce...Ron, <br /><br />No need to apologize! Your comments are certainly most welcome.<br /><br />Doc,<br /><br />As much as I think Rock Raines should be in the HOF, I'd say Mark McGwire had a better career.<br /><br />I assume we're leaving out players who are not eligible. <br /><br />Hmmm...off the top of my head, I'll go for: Simmons, McGwire, Grich, Trammell, Da. Evans, Raines, Lynn, Dw. Evans, Blyleven. Maybe Torre instead of Simmons?Jonathan Bernsteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15931039630306253241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-77497145765337503532010-12-06T13:29:23.777-06:002010-12-06T13:29:23.777-06:00Joe Posnanski, on Ron santo, said that he has been...Joe Posnanski, on Ron santo, said that he has been universally regarded as the best living ex-player not to be elected to the HoF. Of course, as he also pointed out, someone will always be best ex-player not to be elected to the HoF. Santo just happnes to have been extremely well-qualified.<br /><br />My vote for the new "best living ex-player not to have been elected to the HoF" is Tim Raines.Don Coffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07198988872512792834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-37561537471311868122010-12-06T09:56:25.494-06:002010-12-06T09:56:25.494-06:00Flood fought a losing battle that Miller expected ...Flood fought a losing battle that Miller expected to lose. Miller actually advised Flood against following the path he eventually chose.<br /><br />Flood fought the good fight and lost. Miller on the other hand took a path absolutely unrelated to Flood's. He secured independent arbitration (vital for what followed since otherwise Bowie Kuhn would have been the person hearing the Messersmith and company appeal) and then sought a ruling based on the plain language (rather that the commonly held interpretation) of the reserve clause. And won.<br /><br />And then won the appeal to the courts on the same type of technical decision that Flood lost on. Specifically that courts are very reluctant to over-rule a mutually agreed arbitrator.<br /><br />(Sorry Jonathan, the inner baseball nerd strikes)Ron Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14332650867258934223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926413038778731189.post-20063946579113267552010-12-05T18:28:39.035-06:002010-12-05T18:28:39.035-06:00What about Curt Flood? Other than Jackie Robinson...What about Curt Flood? Other than Jackie Robinson, is there any player you can think of who so single-handedly influenced the course of baseball?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com